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	<title>Comments on: Literally Blogging and the Locus of Meaning</title>
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	<description>(bôr'dər-lănd') n. Located on or near a frontier. An indeterminate area or condition.</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2005/09/22/literally-blogging-and-the-locus-of-meaning/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 04:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, thanks for the thoughtful reply. I've corrected my spelling for title of your post. My lament is not so much about communication difficulties because I find that part of the job to be the most engaging and thought-provoking. By "death of the Teacher" I mean that our construct of a teacher - what a teacher is and does - has to change. 

You point out that the meaning of words has been brought into question. Yes! I wish that policy makers could understand that.

 The search for common ground is the starting point for meaningful dialog. &lt;a href="http://www.univie.ac.at/constructivism/EvG/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ernst von Glasersfeld&lt;/a&gt; developed an epistemology he calls &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_constructivism" rel="nofollow"&gt;Radical Constructivism&lt;/a&gt; in which he asserts that meaning construction is more a matter of viability than any 'correct' interpretation of reality. From this point of view, agreement is attained when our meanings seem compatible, as opposed to everyday standards of truth that imply sameness of interpretation. From his book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0750705728/ref=ase_radicalconstruct/104-4758930-2896765?v=glance&#38;s=books" rel="nofollow"&gt;Radical Constructivism&lt;/a&gt; (p. 182):&lt;blockquote&gt;...blind faith in the efficacy of language is probably the most frequent impediment to successful teaching...the difficulty is greatly reduced if the teacher keeps in mind that the words he or she uses have, for the listeners, associative links to their own experiential worlds and not to an independently existing reality that would be the same for all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, thanks for the thoughtful reply. I&#8217;ve corrected my spelling for title of your post. My lament is not so much about communication difficulties because I find that part of the job to be the most engaging and thought-provoking. By &#8220;death of the Teacher&#8221; I mean that our construct of a teacher - what a teacher is and does - has to change. </p>
<p>You point out that the meaning of words has been brought into question. Yes! I wish that policy makers could understand that.</p>
<p> The search for common ground is the starting point for meaningful dialog. <a href="http://www.univie.ac.at/constructivism/EvG/" rel="nofollow">Ernst von Glasersfeld</a> developed an epistemology he calls <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_constructivism" rel="nofollow">Radical Constructivism</a> in which he asserts that meaning construction is more a matter of viability than any &#8216;correct&#8217; interpretation of reality. From this point of view, agreement is attained when our meanings seem compatible, as opposed to everyday standards of truth that imply sameness of interpretation. From his book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0750705728/ref=ase_radicalconstruct/104-4758930-2896765?v=glance&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow">Radical Constructivism</a> (p. 182):<br />
<blockquote>&#8230;blind faith in the efficacy of language is probably the most frequent impediment to successful teaching&#8230;the difficulty is greatly reduced if the teacher keeps in mind that the words he or she uses have, for the listeners, associative links to their own experiential worlds and not to an independently existing reality that would be the same for all.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jacob Murphy</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2005/09/22/literally-blogging-and-the-locus-of-meaning/#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for checking out my material. The post was actually titled the Inefficacy of Language, denoting that language cannot actually communicate abstracts.

You reffered to the "death of the Teacher". Oh dear I hope there is still hope for instruction and transferal of wisdom and instruction. But I agree with your point, that it is the biggest problem facing teachers today.

The very meaning of words and ideas have been brought into question. As Yeats said, the falcon cannot hear the falconer. 
So how do you convey an idea if there is no certainty of common ground? 

Holistically I suppose. Bounce it around. Debate, argue, fight, disagree, and agree. And hopefully come out on the other side with an increased capacity for critical thinking. I think that is the key. 

We have been trained in facts and figures when what we need is the skill to think critically about those figures. 

I am not a teacher (yet) so I haven't faced today's post-post-modern mind and tried to reach into it. Anyone out there been through that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for checking out my material. The post was actually titled the Inefficacy of Language, denoting that language cannot actually communicate abstracts.</p>
<p>You reffered to the &#8220;death of the Teacher&#8221;. Oh dear I hope there is still hope for instruction and transferal of wisdom and instruction. But I agree with your point, that it is the biggest problem facing teachers today.</p>
<p>The very meaning of words and ideas have been brought into question. As Yeats said, the falcon cannot hear the falconer.<br />
So how do you convey an idea if there is no certainty of common ground? </p>
<p>Holistically I suppose. Bounce it around. Debate, argue, fight, disagree, and agree. And hopefully come out on the other side with an increased capacity for critical thinking. I think that is the key. </p>
<p>We have been trained in facts and figures when what we need is the skill to think critically about those figures. </p>
<p>I am not a teacher (yet) so I haven&#8217;t faced today&#8217;s post-post-modern mind and tried to reach into it. Anyone out there been through that?</p>
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