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	<title>Comments on: The Literacy Club</title>
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	<description>(bôr'dər-lănd') n. Located on or near a frontier. An indeterminate area or condition.</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/02/22/the-literacy-club/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, 
Thanks for your comments. For reasons that I don't quite (yet) understand, your comments (and only yours) are getting Wordpress-moderated. I just got home from several days out town to find them.

To answer your concern about  my "knee-jerk reflexive response"... yes I was being sarcastic, but not altogether. I don't think that my approach to teaching is about "making everything about innovation" but may indeed be about finding a way to make reading instruction something other than conventional question and response activity in which meaning and significance is predetermined. There is a crying need to question conventional approaches that *don't work* towards promoting critical thought, or even understanding the author's purpose for writing a text. 

The tension is at least in part a matter of distinguishing between the need to honor convention and prepare students for the rigors of academic culture, and the desire to promote enthusiasm for learning and discovery, allowing students to bring new and unique meanings to school experiences....finding the balance between authority and freedom. 

Teaching comprehension is something that teachers have traditionally NEVER done effectively. If innovation isn't called for under such conditions, then I don't know when it would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
Thanks for your comments. For reasons that I don&#8217;t quite (yet) understand, your comments (and only yours) are getting Wordpress-moderated. I just got home from several days out town to find them.</p>
<p>To answer your concern about  my &#8220;knee-jerk reflexive response&#8221;&#8230; yes I was being sarcastic, but not altogether. I don&#8217;t think that my approach to teaching is about &#8220;making everything about innovation&#8221; but may indeed be about finding a way to make reading instruction something other than conventional question and response activity in which meaning and significance is predetermined. There is a crying need to question conventional approaches that *don&#8217;t work* towards promoting critical thought, or even understanding the author&#8217;s purpose for writing a text. </p>
<p>The tension is at least in part a matter of distinguishing between the need to honor convention and prepare students for the rigors of academic culture, and the desire to promote enthusiasm for learning and discovery, allowing students to bring new and unique meanings to school experiences&#8230;.finding the balance between authority and freedom. </p>
<p>Teaching comprehension is something that teachers have traditionally NEVER done effectively. If innovation isn&#8217;t called for under such conditions, then I don&#8217;t know when it would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lott</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/02/22/the-literacy-club/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Steven Johnson. The book is intriguing, but ultimately not particularly compelling in the sense of giving me reasons to believe other than my own sympathetic suspicions. A lot of theories COULD be true-- Johnson's happen to align with my own ideas, in many cases, but we really need some solid research (or at least observation) to determine if there is any reality at all in the arguments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Steven Johnson. The book is intriguing, but ultimately not particularly compelling in the sense of giving me reasons to believe other than my own sympathetic suspicions. A lot of theories COULD be true&#8211; Johnson&#8217;s happen to align with my own ideas, in many cases, but we really need some solid research (or at least observation) to determine if there is any reality at all in the arguments!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lott</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/02/22/the-literacy-club/#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write "To let myself off the hook just a bit for this infraction, this lapse into conventionalism"--  and I hope you were being sarcastic. There is a danger in this kind of knee-jerk reflexive response-- trying to make everything about innovation-- that is not only tough on you, but gives critics of innovation their most potent ammunition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write &#8220;To let myself off the hook just a bit for this infraction, this lapse into conventionalism&#8221;&#8211;  and I hope you were being sarcastic. There is a danger in this kind of knee-jerk reflexive response&#8211; trying to make everything about innovation&#8211; that is not only tough on you, but gives critics of innovation their most potent ammunition.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/02/22/the-literacy-club/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google image search was powerful, since for the word &lt;em&gt;segregration&lt;/em&gt; we found a &lt;a style="text-decoration:underline" href="http://ordoesit.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/segregated.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt; picture of two drinking fountains&lt;/a&gt; labeled 'white' and 'colored' that got some real questions started. 'Why' is unfortunately way too big to tackle. We can narrow it a bit, but I'm pretty sure the kids, like most people, don't want to work on such a hard topic.

A teaching mantra is just what I need to stay focused. I'm doubtful that I can be the source of one, though.  According to &lt;a style="text-decoration:underline" href="http://www.krishnatemple.com/manor/harrison/gh-mm1.shtm" rel="nofollow"&gt; Shrila Prabhupada&lt;/a&gt;, a mantra has to be received through a channel of disciplic succession or its power won't kick in. I'm not part of such a lineage, so I suppose we'll have to make-do with "a little help from our friends" for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google image search was powerful, since for the word <em>segregration</em> we found a <a style="text-decoration:underline" href="http://ordoesit.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/segregated.jpg" rel="nofollow"> picture of two drinking fountains</a> labeled &#8216;white&#8217; and &#8216;colored&#8217; that got some real questions started. &#8216;Why&#8217; is unfortunately way too big to tackle. We can narrow it a bit, but I&#8217;m pretty sure the kids, like most people, don&#8217;t want to work on such a hard topic.</p>
<p>A teaching mantra is just what I need to stay focused. I&#8217;m doubtful that I can be the source of one, though.  According to <a style="text-decoration:underline" href="http://www.krishnatemple.com/manor/harrison/gh-mm1.shtm" rel="nofollow"> Shrila Prabhupada</a>, a mantra has to be received through a channel of disciplic succession or its power won&#8217;t kick in. I&#8217;m not part of such a lineage, so I suppose we&#8217;ll have to make-do with &#8220;a little help from our friends&#8221; for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Artichoke</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/02/22/the-literacy-club/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Artichoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the flip in the interpretation of "club" in this post Doug, 

And I think - How can I make what I share with kids "a source of power" rather than an "object of dread" -  is a great mantra to hold in our minds when we teach.  

Steven Johnson (Everything bad is good for you) has this interesting take on the rewards of reading - as being both the information conveyed by the book, and the mental work you have to do to process and store that information. - the acquiring knowledge and exercising the mind argument. I tend to get trapped in the acquiring knowledge bit. Johnson claims that society places a "substantial emphasis" on the skills of "effort, concentration, the ability to make sense of words, to follow narrative threads, to sculpt imagined words out of mere sentences on the page", and this is why we value reading, even reading for pleasure - so much. 

But by including visual literacies through google image search you are alerting students that there are many other ways in which they can learn about their world - ways that also require mental work to process, make sense of, and store information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the flip in the interpretation of &#8220;club&#8221; in this post Doug, </p>
<p>And I think - How can I make what I share with kids &#8220;a source of power&#8221; rather than an &#8220;object of dread&#8221; -  is a great mantra to hold in our minds when we teach.  </p>
<p>Steven Johnson (Everything bad is good for you) has this interesting take on the rewards of reading - as being both the information conveyed by the book, and the mental work you have to do to process and store that information. - the acquiring knowledge and exercising the mind argument. I tend to get trapped in the acquiring knowledge bit. Johnson claims that society places a &#8220;substantial emphasis&#8221; on the skills of &#8220;effort, concentration, the ability to make sense of words, to follow narrative threads, to sculpt imagined words out of mere sentences on the page&#8221;, and this is why we value reading, even reading for pleasure - so much. </p>
<p>But by including visual literacies through google image search you are alerting students that there are many other ways in which they can learn about their world - ways that also require mental work to process, make sense of, and store information.</p>
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