Edge U blogging
Graham’s post, Blogging Masterclass Reflections, grabbed my attention. I hear Graham’s point about “teachers being bloggers first before imposing it on their students,” because I’ve said before, and I continue to believe that teachers who want to use blogs with their students need to blog themselves.
You can say, as Graham does, “…there might something of immense value in it (blogging) for you as a professional and as a person.” I agree, but we know that people hear this kind of thing all the time and nobody listens. Advice about health and diet are a good example of good-for-you things that we all make up our own minds about. In my experience this argument appeals only to people who are already inclined to hear it.
Graham’s point that “the true power of blogs can only be experienced by being in the mix,” is a much more credible rationale for teacher-blogging because it specifically addresses an essential element of blogging that is distinct from mere technological competence. The word ‘power‘ is the difference. Blogging is not a technology. It’s a social practice. Using blogging software is trivial compared with the social and cultural understandings that are necessary to do it effectively.
As soon as you start a blog you are confronted with a series of questions that demand answers. For example:
- “Should I blog anonymously?”
- “What should I write about?”
- “How much of my personal business should I reveal?”
- “Can I say anything I want?”
- “Who will read this stuff?”
- “What if I get a comment I don’t like?”
- “Why don’t I get comments?”
These are not technical problems. They are decisions about how to act.
A teacher who asks kids to keep a public blog, should be aware of what is involved. It is an issue of credibility, but not credibility with kids. It’s an issue of professional responsibility to understand the reasons why we want our students to do the things we ask them to do, and to understand the limits and benefits of our decision-making. Without any direct experience blogging, teachers hear a “blogs are good” message without knowing how or why. Blogging is more than simply writing. It’s a form of communication that enables and encourages self-discovery.
We don’t have consensus on a pedagogy for blogging. There are developmental, ethical, and practical issues that are still being negotiated because this is a new practice that is being conducted in the public sphere. I don’t believe that teachers need to become fully devoted to blogging in order to understand what it’s about. That would be like saying that only mathematicians can teach math, or that only competitive swimmers can teach swimming. I do think that teachers should at least engage the practice along with their students in order to model it and guide students in their development. Graham had it right to begin with.

Graham Wegner wrote,
Hi Doug, thanks for the post that has “my back covered” so to speak. Again, the power of blogs are when a critical colleague like yourself holds a mirror up to my comments so I can see what others might see. Yep, teachers don’t enjoy people dishing out free advice from a pedestal which some of my points come cross as - because blogging is so person centred, teachers will either see the value or they won’t for themselves. However, if they don’t value it for themselves, why would they choose it as format for their students? I think you’re right - you don’t need to be a blogger to teach blogging but like teaching Maths, you have to at least understand its immense value and realise it isn’t just another technology to master on the ICT skills continuum. By the way, just a small point of clarification - in your final sentence “Graham had it right to begin with.” - what did I have right? I looked back through your post and mine and I’m seriously not quite sure what you were referring to.
Link | June 9th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
Doug wrote,
I hate to confuse people. Sorry. It would have better if I had been more direct. I was referring to the sentence: “I’ve been putting in my opinion in over at the Masterclass blog in the comments section where my position on teachers being bloggers first before imposing it on their students was put to the blowtorch.”
I should have included some text for the reference. This is what I meant: Graham had it right to begin with. Teachers should be bloggers before imposing it on their students.
If anyone else is confused, maybe they’ll look down here in the comments and clear things up. I suppose I could revise it, but then this discussion would be irrelevant. A fine example of how blogging works. Thanks.
Link | June 9th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
Curtis Borg wrote,
Doug- Just a couple of comments. I think a teacher will have little authenticity if they’re assigning blogging without a solid involvement with it themselves. But also, a teacher has to be a READER of blogs before “picking up the pen” themselves. When I do prof. development sessions on blogging with teachers in NYC, I really encourage them most of all to get acquainted with the voice of a few bloggers on a regular basis - then they might find the time when it’s right for them to begin.
Also, in your remark: “It’s a form of communication that enables and encourages self-discovery.” It is interesting that while “journaling” does provide opportunities for new awareness, I think the value that blogging offers -to receive comments- offers us the chance to learn about ourselves through other’s eyes.
Link | June 10th, 2006 at 9:39 am
Doug wrote,
Curtis, you mention that teachers have to be readers of blogs before becoming writers of blogs. I didn’t get interested in reading them until I began writing. So I don’t exactly agree. The process of self-discovery for me was that the writing prompted me to look deeper into what else was “out there” that resonated for me. I suppose I could have done it the other way around. It would have saved me a bunch of development time. It took me many months to even find any teacher blogs and to tap into an interest area that I wanted to focus on. Now I look at that whole period as one part of the discovery process.
You’re right about the comments. They are what makes the whole thing fly. Thanks for joining in the discussion.
Link | June 10th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
Mark Ahlness wrote,
Doug,
I agree wholeheartedly that we teachers must blog first before we can blog effectively with our kids. From my perspective it’s not about credibility, it’s just about knowing how. The questions you posed as soon as one starts a blog - non-bloggers have no idea, and they need to.
Several times this school year I’ve had to use my knowledge of and experience with blogging (both limited, for sure) to guide my third graders through stuff. For example, dealing with comments. Like “what if somebody leaves a comment, but they don’t have a blog?” or “is it ok to leave a reply to a comment on my blog as a comment to something they wrote (which is all about something else)?” or “do I HAVE to respond somehow?”
Seems like little stuff, but in third grade, we’re still teaching/preaching ethics, at least in my class. You have to know the expectations in this new classroom, as well as the possibilitites. And then you have to know how the machine runs…. http://roomtwelve.com
When I show my colleagues the amazing things my kids have done this year on their blogs, the first thing I tell them is to blog first themselves. If they then get bit, “get it”, etc, then go ahead and go for it with the kids. Otherwise, I’m afraid the boat will not leave the dock. - Mark
Link | June 10th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
Doug wrote,
Mark, your statement, “You have to know the expectations in this new classroom, as well as the possibilitites. And then you have to know how the machine runs,” says it all. I like the term ‘new classroom’. It IS all about docks and boats, and leaving.
Link | June 10th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
Teaching Generation Z » Comments Are The Lifeblood Of Blogs wrote,
[...] As I’ve been pushing my point of view that if you want to get your students into blogging, then you need to be a blogger too, a couple of interesting posts of a supportive and expansionary nature have appeared as a direct or indirect result. Firstly, Doug at Borderland has analysed my previous post and reflected on points raised within and the comments continue that conversation. Read both for a full picture. [...]
Link | June 11th, 2006 at 4:28 am
Dean Shareski wrote,
Doug,
I’ve been wrestling with two issues you raise here. The first about which comes first reading or writing. While I used to hold the opinion that it wasn’t that important, I’m leaning towards the reading first, at least for most people. But again, it may not be true for everyone.
The second issue you raise here and with some of your other posts is the decision to have public or private blogs. I really encourage teachers to think in terms of public blogging only. I understand there may be a need occasionally to post privately but the power of social networking is in being both public and forthright in who you are. That’s why the anonymous posting bothers me. Even with kids. I’m not saying they should use personal information but those reading it should have some context: age and even general geographic information (inner city, rural, state, city maybe) I find it difficult to read blogs that don’t have an about page. Blogging is always in context with who you are.
Link | June 19th, 2006 at 7:17 am
Doug wrote,
Dean, our points of view are probably not too far apart. Public blogging is important to me, too, and I understand some of the hazards - especially where unsophisticated little kids are given access. Teachers need to be knowledgeable in order to be responsible. If reading stuff first makes them comfortable before they jump in, then that’s how they should do it. I’m comfortable with lots of uncertainty, so I tend to act first and ask questions later. But I wouldn’t do that at the same time I was responsible for leading two dozen 10 year olds. I think teachers need to have some direct experience. Most of the other things we teach involved training in one form or another.
I, too, look for an ‘about’ page in every blog. Without that, I can’t make sense of what I read, either.
Link | June 19th, 2006 at 3:47 pm