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		<title>By: Borderland &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Report Card Reform</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/10/31/winners-and-losers/#comment-67432</link>
		<dc:creator>Borderland &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Report Card Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] isn&#8217;t real education reform. It doesn&#8217;t address any core problems. There will still be winners and losers. The curriculum remains securely in place. And this is, after all, only about grades and report [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] isn&#8217;t real education reform. It doesn&#8217;t address any core problems. There will still be winners and losers. The curriculum remains securely in place. And this is, after all, only about grades and report [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Lazar</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2006/10/31/winners-and-losers/#comment-9546</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Lazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herndon's book is my favorite on Education.  It's great to see another fan.  A great post! (as always).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herndon&#8217;s book is my favorite on Education.  It&#8217;s great to see another fan.  A great post! (as always).</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, 
I just want to say how much I am moved by your blogging. Your writing style just blows me away, and I greatly appreciate your willingness to share your struggles (as well as your successes) with us. Makes me think hard about my own kids and what they are learning from this system. 
Best,
Will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,<br />
I just want to say how much I am moved by your blogging. Your writing style just blows me away, and I greatly appreciate your willingness to share your struggles (as well as your successes) with us. Makes me think hard about my own kids and what they are learning from this system.<br />
Best,<br />
Will</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Puglisi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Puglisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a story I read in high school called, "The Real Thing" written by Henry James. It was fairly complex for me then, a story of an artist that paints from models to produce portraits of the monied elite for sale. It must by definition appeal to those with the money and by definition show them as superior beings.After all the class system in England demanded adherance to that notion...class tells..An inenviable truth of art is that it often serves this master.  As it happens the painter cannot work well (paints flat unsuccessful work)with models from the wealthy elite-even if painting them, he has to work with two models that are very poor. It seems  they can "affect" poses and mannerisms enabling the painter the ability to capture the wealthy patron...a kind of process whereby he has to have the poor to be able to "see" the rich. 
And here of course is Herndon talking. He hit it so clearly.

What has happened I think in Standardized testing in this country is that this enormous group with affluence that scores well has assumed this test measured their inherent goodness, value, intelligences...they have presumed that in this process something is being "known" which serves to assuage man's basic insecurities and value issues that drive so much of this age of insecurity. So much more can be said about this but as I teach over there on the other side of the track....looking at abilities, talents, knowing as Mark Twain wrote so beautifully in the "Prince and the Pauper" that survival in the world of poverty takes so much that this high scoring group would find difficult to deal with- despite all that test data to verify their "status"-i know the "real thing" and I think actually we all know the real truth too which is why the extremes and emotions and all the anger of the now. I think we know.... Anyway reflecting through the lens of that book, The Real Thing, I see all too often that the failure of one group supports the success of the other...as you have so well articulated and Herdon was compelled to expose. 

Having now worked a lifetime in this world of poverty and desire to bear witness about what I learned ...i see now that , if I can borrow some psychological tools, one group is a projection or mirror for the other. My little class of poor immigrants scoring poorly on rigged materials stands holding up the mirror for the group that doesn't like to face some basic truths. It's hard to feel too good and hold Christian virtues while living high and having more without a kind of system created to give yourself an illusion..."I earned this",I deserve my fortune, I did it myself, I was better and deserve it, mine have "gifts", we are somehow "more". 
It's a whole lot harder to see everone else as not only your equal but quite possibly one you may never equal. ( or as i am often made to recall...the meek...do unto others)
To me writing grade cards reflects this real thing...this kind of symbol of what we can't yet face as an educational system and fix or at least address, what we can't get beyond, what we don't examine and what we impose on children as we project onto them an abysmal amount of unresolved educational societal projection. 

And leaving my poor kinds of language connections...the greatest truth I know about kids is tracking them and staying connected through time with them-the one thing the system absolutely will not and does not do .....and that is as far away from how a loving group would ever behave as you can get.......we never reflect in a system like way on the thoughts and perceptions of those we have guided.We don't follow kids into their lives which would be a report of great help on what we are doing...a much fuller report. And we don't let the kids "grade" our work as teachers in return... This is no way to run a school...Grades at present are about as useful as all the other myths maintained.....just social sorters.

I have a friend that sits at conferences with a blank card, says what he wants about the child and the work they are doing, asks the parent what grades they feel that fit the child and they fill it in together. It's no solution but it's something that makes his peer teachers livid. It's as if this alone somehow makes a mockery of their work. Listening over the years to perceptions of this from children, parents, teachers, former families has given me incredible insights into what grades actually do....often times they just injure . 
And I'm not interested in "doing harm"...what I'm interested in is reading, painting, connecting, drawing, singing, celebrating, outlining, sorting, listing, assessing, designing, sharing, helping, algebratizing, counting, processing, debating, and all the things no card ever really helps me talk about......thanks Doug for a very nice reflection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a story I read in high school called, &#8220;The Real Thing&#8221; written by Henry James. It was fairly complex for me then, a story of an artist that paints from models to produce portraits of the monied elite for sale. It must by definition appeal to those with the money and by definition show them as superior beings.After all the class system in England demanded adherance to that notion&#8230;class tells..An inenviable truth of art is that it often serves this master.  As it happens the painter cannot work well (paints flat unsuccessful work)with models from the wealthy elite-even if painting them, he has to work with two models that are very poor. It seems  they can &#8220;affect&#8221; poses and mannerisms enabling the painter the ability to capture the wealthy patron&#8230;a kind of process whereby he has to have the poor to be able to &#8220;see&#8221; the rich.<br />
And here of course is Herndon talking. He hit it so clearly.</p>
<p>What has happened I think in Standardized testing in this country is that this enormous group with affluence that scores well has assumed this test measured their inherent goodness, value, intelligences&#8230;they have presumed that in this process something is being &#8220;known&#8221; which serves to assuage man&#8217;s basic insecurities and value issues that drive so much of this age of insecurity. So much more can be said about this but as I teach over there on the other side of the track&#8230;.looking at abilities, talents, knowing as Mark Twain wrote so beautifully in the &#8220;Prince and the Pauper&#8221; that survival in the world of poverty takes so much that this high scoring group would find difficult to deal with- despite all that test data to verify their &#8220;status&#8221;-i know the &#8220;real thing&#8221; and I think actually we all know the real truth too which is why the extremes and emotions and all the anger of the now. I think we know&#8230;. Anyway reflecting through the lens of that book, The Real Thing, I see all too often that the failure of one group supports the success of the other&#8230;as you have so well articulated and Herdon was compelled to expose. </p>
<p>Having now worked a lifetime in this world of poverty and desire to bear witness about what I learned &#8230;i see now that , if I can borrow some psychological tools, one group is a projection or mirror for the other. My little class of poor immigrants scoring poorly on rigged materials stands holding up the mirror for the group that doesn&#8217;t like to face some basic truths. It&#8217;s hard to feel too good and hold Christian virtues while living high and having more without a kind of system created to give yourself an illusion&#8230;&#8221;I earned this&#8221;,I deserve my fortune, I did it myself, I was better and deserve it, mine have &#8220;gifts&#8221;, we are somehow &#8220;more&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s a whole lot harder to see everone else as not only your equal but quite possibly one you may never equal. ( or as i am often made to recall&#8230;the meek&#8230;do unto others)<br />
To me writing grade cards reflects this real thing&#8230;this kind of symbol of what we can&#8217;t yet face as an educational system and fix or at least address, what we can&#8217;t get beyond, what we don&#8217;t examine and what we impose on children as we project onto them an abysmal amount of unresolved educational societal projection. </p>
<p>And leaving my poor kinds of language connections&#8230;the greatest truth I know about kids is tracking them and staying connected through time with them-the one thing the system absolutely will not and does not do &#8230;..and that is as far away from how a loving group would ever behave as you can get&#8230;&#8230;.we never reflect in a system like way on the thoughts and perceptions of those we have guided.We don&#8217;t follow kids into their lives which would be a report of great help on what we are doing&#8230;a much fuller report. And we don&#8217;t let the kids &#8220;grade&#8221; our work as teachers in return&#8230; This is no way to run a school&#8230;Grades at present are about as useful as all the other myths maintained&#8230;..just social sorters.</p>
<p>I have a friend that sits at conferences with a blank card, says what he wants about the child and the work they are doing, asks the parent what grades they feel that fit the child and they fill it in together. It&#8217;s no solution but it&#8217;s something that makes his peer teachers livid. It&#8217;s as if this alone somehow makes a mockery of their work. Listening over the years to perceptions of this from children, parents, teachers, former families has given me incredible insights into what grades actually do&#8230;.often times they just injure .<br />
And I&#8217;m not interested in &#8220;doing harm&#8221;&#8230;what I&#8217;m interested in is reading, painting, connecting, drawing, singing, celebrating, outlining, sorting, listing, assessing, designing, sharing, helping, algebratizing, counting, processing, debating, and all the things no card ever really helps me talk about&#8230;&#8230;thanks Doug for a very nice reflection.</p>
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