e-authoring our eduselves
I’m thinking about how the edublog genre might be like listening to a hatchling through the eggshell, if embryos could talk. It’s a public narration of the emergent self. The current Journal of Adolescent & Adult Literacy (March, 2007), a themed issue about e-portfolios, got me going on this.
Troy Hicks and a cadre of teachers wrote in Rethinking the Purposes and Processes for Designing Digital Portfolios that an online portfolio puts us in a rhetorical situation in which we “narrate our own learning” as well as create professional and personal identities.
I’ve not had much exposure to the literature on e-portfolios. I’ve done a little bit of online research, but this is the first time I’ve seen such an in-depth treatment of the subject in a peer-reviewed journal. There is a tension, I see from this reading, between portfolios as showcases for mastery, and as tools for inquiry.
One of the first things that hit me is that I’ve never thought of including my students’ site as part of my “digital portfolio.” It never crossed my mind that their work might be used to evaluate my effectiveness as a teacher. Not that I’d mind, but here I am just making it up as I go! There’s no standards for e-portfolios yet, are there? Maybe I haven’t given this much thought because I’m fully “mature” as a teacher, and not looking to use any of this material in a job search.
I’ve been treating my students’ blogs as largely informal writing spaces, giving students about 30 minutes a day to work in them. Practically speaking, though, they don’t have a lot of time to read each others’ writing on the website, which limits its impact for them.
Motivation is an issue I’ve been thinking about for the students’ writing. That is, what motivates them to make their work more interesting and readable? How do they see themselves getting better at it? Last year I tried to get them to choose some of what they considered their best work, but they really didn’t have a good set of criteria for deciding. This seems like an obvious shortcoming in my writing program, and gives me some ideas about how we should be talking about what we do as writers, “narrating our learning.”
It seems to me that if publishing to a community site is going to prompt students to be more engaged and engaging, then the impetus to grow should come from some intrinsic motivation, and not simply from the urging of the teacher. What I see is that some students are, indeed, making efforts to improve their work. With several others, though, the effort is not so obvious. I wonder if maybe these students are protecting their privacy by “playing it safe” and not contributing much.
Our normal process involves morning mini-lessons with the LCD projector. Occasionally I give them a topic, show them how to write a report, or how to cite their sources. When they do find information on a topic of interest to them, they tend to simply copy it without generalizing or contextualizing it for the audience. I explain that they need to make their thinking explicit; they don’t do it on their own, and they don’t seem to demand it of one another.
One thing for sure, maintaining a site for student work is a time consuming job. There’s a lot of fixing-up and conferencing that happens in the background. I have to read and proofread all the material that is published. I’ve taught them to type, and they can crank out a huge volume of material. I don’t require them to edit everything that needs changing. But I do frequently ask them to make revisions that I know they are capable of. Sometimes I literally can’t figure out what somebody was trying to say, and we need to chat.
Upholding community norms was addressed by Tara Autrey in her piece about transforming her practice:
…I have never been a fan of censorship. Yet, I make these tough choices because I want to represent my students and myself in a way that is in accordance with the curriculum mandated by my school district and the state of Michigan, as well as the moral and ethical norms of our community.
I think my biggest struggle, aside from the time spent, is deciding where to draw the line between my authority and the students’ autonomy. They all like having a space to write about whatever is on their minds - even when they don’t have anything to say.
Come to think of it, that isn’t much different than this blog. We all have our days, I suppose.
citation:
Hicks, T., Russo, A., Autrey, T., Gardner, R., Kabodian, A., & Edington, C. (2007, March). Rethinking the Purposes and Processes for Designing Digital Portfolios. Journal of Adolescent & Adult Literacy, 50(6), 450–458.

Em wrote,
When you say you want your students to be more ‘engaged and engaging’…I wanted to ask if your students blogs receive comments from outside readers? Do they only get feedback from you and their classmates? Or have they experienced being read by a wider audience? I know schools struggle opening up student work to the world. So many questions of filtering and confidentiality and so forth. But I’m curious about the impact of knowing you have an audience. Does that make the writer more engaged and more engaging?
Link | March 4th, 2007 at 6:36 am
Mark Ahlness wrote,
Doug, I have so much to say here, but I’ll probably post about it later. I will leave you with one thought.
Several of your kids’ blogs are read regularly by my students. There is name recognition of some of your authors in my classroom. I’d bet somebody in my class will blog about the writing of one of your kids soon. - Mark
Link | March 4th, 2007 at 9:17 am
Doug Noon wrote,
Thanks. Many of the kids do get comments from far and wide. I don’t know - may not ever be able to really determine - how they evaluate the connection between their original idea and its execution.
Audience does encourage the writer to be more engaged and engaging, but it isn’t a given. Readers don’t see the original drafts, which frequently appear to be written without regard to how they will be received. The classroom discussions seem to have more impact on the kids than the responses online. They love getting comments, but I don’t know what use they make of them. That’s what I mean when I wonder where their motivation comes from. The peer group is an important audience.
This whole endeavor is ripe with classroom research opportunities.
Link | March 4th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
A. Mercer wrote,
First, let me say that your students’ writing is really impressive to me as a fifth grade teacher. I’ve been reflecting on my student’s online writing too, but I’m at a different stage. I’ve left my students writing up with minimal corrections. The only formal writing is the heritage/culture reports which were “group” edited. I think I’m at the stage where they are writing for fluency more like journal writing (which is not necessarily perfect). I’m thinking about how I’m going to transition them to more formal writing.
Also, I’m curious about the connection between writing on computers/online and writing with pencil and paper. Since all their testing is on paper, I’m wondering how their writing will translate between those mediums? I know eventually my students will probably not be working in a paper medium at all by the time they are in college, whereas as I went from college to professional life, I’ve always had to be able to write in both mediums because all my testing assessment was done on paper.
Thank you for another excellent post!
Link | March 5th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
The Blog of Ms. Mercer » From Paper and Pencil vs. digital writing wrote,
[...] Doug Noon on Borderland had a very interesting post reflecting on his students’ blog work that I commented on. My reflection was more about shifting writing between the paper, and computer worlds. [...]
Link | March 5th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Doug Noon wrote,
There is a lot of behind the scenes action in any classroom project that isn’t obvious to people who weren’t right there in the middle of things. And then, too, being right in the middle of things can prevent us from seeing the big picture sometimes. My students are making strides in their work, I see, and teaching them to type has made a huge difference for them.
Some still say that they can’t compose on the keyboard, though. Understand that they use portable keyboards at their desks that only show three lines of text at at time, and depend on the arrow keys for cursor placement. I couldn’t compose on one of those, either. They download to text files on the classroom computers to format and revise their work before they dump it into the web site.
From there I usually correct their spelling and add periods, which few seem to think about. Sometimes I get grouchy and put the periods in, and tell them to fix up the capitalizations. Forget the spell checker. When they use that, they choose words that are often completely wrong. I can usually figure out what they mean when they spell intuitively.
Often I’ll have them print their work and we do the spelling and revising with a pencil on the hard copy. Other times I sit with them and we talk about it, if there are content problems. There are a lot of process-related rough spots.
Subject matter is negotiated. Sometimes I choose. Sometimes they choose. I’ve worked on formal writing with them, and tried to help them with topic sentences, supporting details, outlines, etc.
As for the question of transference to the testing environment… I think that the demands put on them in the formal tests are completely unnatural, and I don’t know if there is any way to prepare them to respond thoughtfully to a series of prompts that require them to write multiple stories and essays in a single sitting.
I’ve seen their handwritten composition improve as the year goes along. They don’t balk at any writing task now. That may be the daily discipline kicking in. Maybe.
Link | March 5th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Nancy wrote,
Random thoughts about our student blog… motivation? … mechanics? … purpose?
I read some where that teachers who blog with students should not “teach” but should join the conversation. I’m trying. I edit minor mistakes because I think people judge you by how you write, our blog is probably more “formal” than most. Our Drupel blog has a spell check and most kids use it. I do have two students who are horrific spellers and I don’t quite know what to do with them–their spelling is so distracting, they lose the message.
I did my first webpages with kids about ten years ago and I never let kids do “personal” pages…favorite color, favorite band, etc. Figured they could do that on their own time–I wanted content. I re-enforce the same philosophy with the class blog.
The purpose of the class blog is to get kids to think and start a conversation others might be interested in and so far they are doing a wonderful job. (Original purposes also included safety and copyright awareness) My main frustration so far is motivation. If I give them time, they will blog while in class but I wanted this to be a “bigger” event and only a few bloggers write daily. My boys, even the ones who are exceptional writers, don’t blog often enough.
Interesting tidbits–I have a student with Aspergers, OCD and anxiety issues. He is an excellent writer but always writes on a science topic and never comments on other students writing. So typical in a “social” enviroment–he kinda missed the point!
One of my daily bloggers convinced both of her parents to blog and they correspond as one thinker to another–it’s cool.
If you have any student bloggers who want to join in, I’m sure my students would be thrilled. Finished blathering–N
PS Signing up to blog was optional. I teacher gifted kids, grades K-6.
Link | March 8th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
Doug Noon wrote,
Nancy, I want that Drupal spelling checker! Maybe there’s a module for that? One of my chores for spring break is to do some site upgrades, and I’m going to try to add a couple of modules.
You’ve done a lot with images and visual media on your site. I like that. I’ll point my students your way and see what happens. A few of them have visited other classroom blogs, but they don’t get much time with the computers at school, and it seems like almost none of them work on the website from home.
I do see the value in writing with the kids, but I can’t keep up. Your comment prompts me, though, to think a bit more on why that might be a good idea. I may do more of that before the school year is over.
Blathering is perfectly acceptable, BTW. Thanks.
Link | March 9th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Nancy wrote,
The spell checker comes with the tinymce (Tiny Mice) module. It’s a WYSIWYG like Word. It has hundreds of icons but we keep in simple with default black font, same size. It also allows for linking and inserting images. I spend about an hour each night commenting but I’m an “old” teacher with grown kids….OK so the lawyer and the philosopher still live at home–but I have time others don’t.
Link | March 10th, 2007 at 8:41 pm