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	<title>Comments on: Stirring Up Justice</title>
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		<title>By: A. Mercer</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/06/04/stirring-up-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-39522</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This helped inspire some of my own &lt;a href=&quot;http://mizmercer.edublogs.org/2007/06/14/things-ive-learned-while-teaching-black-children/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reflections&lt;/a&gt; on teaching justice. Thank you once again for a thoughtful, and thought provoking post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This helped inspire some of my own <a href="http://mizmercer.edublogs.org/2007/06/14/things-ive-learned-while-teaching-black-children/" rel="nofollow">reflections</a> on teaching justice. Thank you once again for a thoughtful, and thought provoking post.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Noon</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/06/04/stirring-up-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-37550</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco&#039;s statement, &quot;Simply being worked up about a particular theme...is not enough. It needs to be exploited as a means to developing intellectual skills,&quot; is very much the way I see it. Critical pedagogy has to first be applied at home, to ourselves, or we do risk preaching, instead of teaching. Advocacy for issues is different than &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquiry_method&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open inquiry&lt;/a&gt;.

Piet Hut sees &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ids.ias.edu/~piet/act/nat/open/socratic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Socratic questioning&lt;/a&gt; as a &quot;&lt;em&gt;...quest for freedom. In this quest, he [Socrates] cheerfully investigated any type of limitation inherent in any type of belief, only to show the lack of solidity of these limitations and fixed conclusions. I see his quest for definitions more as a tool to unearth our unquestioned identifications,&lt;/em&gt;&quot; which is how I think of critical pedagogy.

Matthew, thanks for your comment. I like your blog title, &quot;Unscripted Learning,&quot; I&#039;ll check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco&#8217;s statement, &#8220;Simply being worked up about a particular theme&#8230;is not enough. It needs to be exploited as a means to developing intellectual skills,&#8221; is very much the way I see it. Critical pedagogy has to first be applied at home, to ourselves, or we do risk preaching, instead of teaching. Advocacy for issues is different than <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquiry_method" rel="nofollow">open inquiry</a>.</p>
<p>Piet Hut sees <a href="http://www.ids.ias.edu/~piet/act/nat/open/socratic.html" rel="nofollow">Socratic questioning</a> as a &#8220;<em>&#8230;quest for freedom. In this quest, he [Socrates] cheerfully investigated any type of limitation inherent in any type of belief, only to show the lack of solidity of these limitations and fixed conclusions. I see his quest for definitions more as a tool to unearth our unquestioned identifications,</em>&#8221; which is how I think of critical pedagogy.</p>
<p>Matthew, thanks for your comment. I like your blog title, &#8220;Unscripted Learning,&#8221; I&#8217;ll check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lundquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Lundquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.  I recently was turned on to Radical Math and am looking forward to attending their conference next year.  I think the thing for progressives to keep in mind is that their simply isn&#039;t neutral way to teach (or to do anything).  Everything we do is political.  As Thomas Nagel puts it, there is no view from nowhere.  The notion that trying to &quot;stay out of the way&quot; and &quot;just teach what you&#039;re told&quot; as a way of stearing clear of politics is a myth.  Our students are always learning politics from us.

Been visiting your blog for a while.  I&#039;m new to the bloggospher, so I&#039;d love it if you&#039;d check mine out and give me some pointers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I recently was turned on to Radical Math and am looking forward to attending their conference next year.  I think the thing for progressives to keep in mind is that their simply isn&#8217;t neutral way to teach (or to do anything).  Everything we do is political.  As Thomas Nagel puts it, there is no view from nowhere.  The notion that trying to &#8220;stay out of the way&#8221; and &#8220;just teach what you&#8217;re told&#8221; as a way of stearing clear of politics is a myth.  Our students are always learning politics from us.</p>
<p>Been visiting your blog for a while.  I&#8217;m new to the bloggospher, so I&#8217;d love it if you&#8217;d check mine out and give me some pointers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Puglisi</title>
		<link>http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/06/04/stirring-up-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-37233</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Puglisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ending of your post was very helpful.
As always.

My mind right now, heart is so burnt anything I&#039;d say would enflame another. I can only say thanks for such thoughtful work. It&#039;s appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ending of your post was very helpful.<br />
As always.</p>
<p>My mind right now, heart is so burnt anything I&#8217;d say would enflame another. I can only say thanks for such thoughtful work. It&#8217;s appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Polo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Polo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Oops, hit the send button too early). Having said that (above), I do think teaching social justice or about social problems is problematical, and needs a great deal of thought, care and preparation. Simply being worked up about a particular theme (like &lt;a href=&quot;http://sheffnersweb.net/?p=122&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;plastic bag pollution&lt;/a&gt;, for instance), is not enough. It needs to be exploited as a means to developing intellectual skills, otherwise it risks becoming either indoctrination or being regarded as such. The activism should be done outside of school, otherwise you&#039;re just asking for trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Oops, hit the send button too early). Having said that (above), I do think teaching social justice or about social problems is problematical, and needs a great deal of thought, care and preparation. Simply being worked up about a particular theme (like <a href="http://sheffnersweb.net/?p=122" rel="nofollow">plastic bag pollution</a>, for instance), is not enough. It needs to be exploited as a means to developing intellectual skills, otherwise it risks becoming either indoctrination or being regarded as such. The activism should be done outside of school, otherwise you&#8217;re just asking for trouble.</p>
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