Classroom Blogging Backstory
The other day Mark Ahlness posted about his students spending silent reading periods reading blogs that my fourth graders wrote this year. It may interest people to hear a little bit about the production of those Pokemon blog posts and how my students used Wikipedia, especially since Doug Johnson posted a spirited and correct defense of student uses for Wikipedia. I’m glad Wikipedia isn’t blocked because it was a big help to all of us.
I’m out of touch with video game culture, and when a couple of my students started to write Pokemon stories, I had not a clue what they were about. I couldn’t help them with any of the proofreading, since I didn’t know how to spell things - and neither did they. One of them found some fan fiction sites that he really liked, and I hoped that maybe they’d get some pleasure out of reading what other fans wrote. I also hoped that a little quality would rub off, and that I could get them to do a little more exposition in their work for those of us who are neither fans nor clairvoyants. But that never really happened.
I finally got overwhelmed and a little disgusted with the whole business because they wrote these really long and complicated stories that made no sense to me, and I questioned what they were learning. I resented the time it took for me to help them work through the spelling and punctuation issues when we couldn’t even figure out how some of these game-world words, (and names like Cindiquil) should be spelled. I put restrictions on how many of these stories I was willing to help them publish because they required a LOT of one-on-one attention. I asked the kids to get help with the mechanics from people at home, but few did.
Finally one student hit upon the idea of looking somewhere else on the internet to find the correct spellings. Since the district blocks entertainment and game sites, and we couldn’t visit the game homepages from school, we used Wikipedia pages devoted to these games and stories with links to related pages. This turned into a pretty healthy resource for them, and they researched the correct spellings of the terms they were using in their work. They soon figured out how to link to the Wikipedia image files. Other students began using Wikipedia to read about tigers, and whales, and singers, and other stuff they wanted to find out more about, but Wikipedia proved to be an invaluable resource for those of us who needed help with esoteric proper nouns.
During what became a reading/writing period, I patrolled the room with a clipboard taking notes. I chatted with students about what they were looking for, and what they were learning, and if it was for a project, etc. When I could see that they weren’t focused, I’d give them an assignment. But for the motivated kids, I showed them how to take notes (on paper, to avoid the copy/paste reports they tried to write) and let them follow their interests.
When we got noticed in the local newspaper, I put the Statcounter code on one of the template files to track our visitors. I was amazed to see how many people visited the kids site. Lots more than read this blog, as a rule. And they generally find the site with Google searches for things like the strongest pokemon in sinnoh, or pokemon how to get to outer space. It seems that my fourth-graders created something there’s a demand for, even if I couldn’t appreciate or understand it. What do I know?
I think there’s a real problem finding elementary kid-level reading material on the internet. I’m glad my students provided a source for some of Mark’s readers, and anyone else who wants to read fourth grader writing, but I wish I could have helped them do a better job with their fiction writing. I simply don’t have the background knowledge to comment on the fan fiction, and I couldn’t convince any of them to consider writing for an audience that might need a little more help. I wanted the kids to know that folks were reading what they wrote, even if they didn’t leave comments, and I explained to them that Google was indexing their work. I showed one little girl what happened when we did this search, and she was thrilled to see that her blog was the top result.

Sarah Puglisi wrote,
When you buy the toys and start to consider naming your pets these names I will stage an intervention. sarah
Link | June 9th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Amy Kenyon wrote,
I am a 3rd grade teacher who is new to the blogging world, but oddly enough I have begun writing about the issue you highlighted above. We (my co-teacher and I) teach a unit on fiction writing, and this year the stories were weirder than ever! Lots of Pokemon, Puffles (from Club Penguin), and plot lines that made no sense. I have been given a summer grant to tackle this unit in a more focused way. One thing I need to do is to connect with other teachers (like yourself) locally to find out how you teach fiction writing in your classrooms. Please visit my blog (and encourage others to visit) so I can find out more about what you are doing. Thanks!
Link | June 9th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Amy Kenyon wrote,
OOPS! I meant “globally” not “locally.” As a new blogger, I forgot to edit my writing BEFORE posting my comment. Oh well . . .
Link | June 9th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Brian Crosby wrote,
Doug - one of the things that hooked my students, because you’re right they don’t get a ton of comments, was seeing how many “reads” their posts get. I noted your student blog doesn’t seem to keep track of that. Many of my students’ posts have hundeds of “reads” - it has sparked some great conversation about what draws someone to read versus comment. Celest’s first post has been read over 800 times now.
Our school year just ended this past Wednesday - I have about 14 students from this year that will be in my class next year since I am rolling them up to fifth (but I’m losing 8 students because our school has been rezoned), and I’m really looking forward to seeing what happens with their blogging next year. I encouraged students to blog during the summer, but only about 5 of them have computers at home so we’ll see what happens.
Brian
Link | June 9th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Doug Noon wrote,
Amy, Globally, locally…either way it’s a good topic. And if you have any ideas about fiction writing, I’m ready to hear them. I’m grateful for the comment, though, because I had no idea that it was an issue for anyone else. The third grade teachers I work with told me that they were happy that their students were writing anything - just let them write. One of them told me that maybe they’d have it “out of their system” by the time they got to my class. I doubt it. My solution for next year isn’t very creative. I’ve been thinking that I want to limit fiction writing (can’t quite bring myself to forbid it altogether) to specific occasions, and teach it explicitly - like an art lesson. I need to research how to do that. Maybe somebody who reads this will have a good suggestion for a resource or an approach that they’ve tried. I’m not a fiction writer, and I really don’t know enough about it to guide my students.
I have a theory about the weird game-related stories with the non-existent plot lines. I think that because they’re inspired by games, the kids don’t really worry about character development or motivation. They seem to think that those things are all “givens,” and assume that their readers already understand. And maybe they’re correct.
And Brian, I echo your “we’ll see…” Since I’m moving up to sixth, I’ll pick up several kids who were in my class the year we started the website. Should be interesting.
Link | June 9th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Artichoke wrote,
You made me laugh Doug - I still remember the Pokemon movie I was dragged along to a few years back - I thought I was dying - nothing made any sense and the constantly changing brutal flashing animation meant i quickly decide the safest way to survive the experience without incurring permanent brain damage was to shut my eyes. Whilst i was suffering all around me kids were crying out in delight
Still I have made an effort to understand the game aspects of this and think there is much of value in ethical thinking and metacognitive reflection - it even provided strong exemplars for our new draft curriculum key competencies
Check out the key competency Managing self - in the following quote
Someone’s got to take a stand. Someone’s got to say ‘no’ and refuse to fight. Just like Pikachu.
-Ash Ketchum
Link | June 10th, 2007 at 1:47 am
Doug Noon wrote,
Artichoke, I’m grateful for the suggestion you make to understand this Pokestuff and consider the ethical thinking to be found in it - so I go to Ash Ketchum’s Wikipedia page and find a thorough explanation of his character, which I still don’t get, except maybe this:
Seems like a good improvement plan for a teacher.
The alternative is to take the position that I found in this article a moment ago (which shows us how a traditionalist sees the internet) Thinking is so over:
I’m pretty sure I don’t have the patience to read through enough of the Pokemon things to understand the “why” of it. I know a kid wouldn’t need to do that. I’ll make an effort to be like Ash and learn from the enemy.
Link | June 10th, 2007 at 2:47 am
Brian Crosby wrote,
Doug: Have students write fiction that relates to something they know about … themselves. I posted awhile back (http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=260) about a story I have students write that is a huge hit with them because it is fiction based on fact - their own life and experience. I have them write about being their shoes for a day. From the time they get up in the morning until they go to bed at night they are telling about one day going to school from their shoes point of view. It is great fun and since every kid wears shoes they can image what it would be like. I designed it to be pretty much schema neutral. I mean with very few exceptions every kid has experience with shoes and going to school. You get to read them examples of writing from their own point of view and you always have a few kids that either start out writing NOT from the shoes point of view or they start out fine but then switch to telling a story about their shoes - so when you sit down with them and show with their own writing … that it is truly one of those times you can actually see the light bulb go on over their head (well not really … I mean I wouldn’t want you to think I was seeing things … but I digress). Anyhow I love this prompt and I spend a lot of time having them brainstorm every part of their day. Even going on field trips outside on the playground and library and other places around school so they can gain first hand experience touching the blacktop and imagine what that is like to step on - the barked area around the play equipment … the messy floor in the lunch room right after lunch etc.. So you can see I get fired up about this one. But I’ll leave it to you … just a thought.
Fiction writing is messy!
Brian
Link | June 10th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Sarah Puglisi wrote,
Ugh…so frustrated I can’t paste in a link. I just read some nice thoughts on teaching writing at:
http://www.writingproject.org/cs/nwpp/print/nwpr/922
Your comments from others generally seemed connected.
Link | June 10th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Doug Noon wrote,
Thanks, Brian and Sarah, for the suggestions.
The idea for using shoes to narrate a story reminded me of something I learned about in a workshop, but haven’t used in a while. It’s called RAFT (Role, Audience, Format, Topic) meaning that manipulating those variables generates different types of texts.
Link | June 10th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Mark Ahlness wrote,
What I find myself scratching my head over right now are the links in one of your student posts, Doug: http://tellraven.us/node/1061 I’d always assumed checking for plagiarism would be an issue for teachers of older (than third grade) kids. In the back of my mind, I had this doubt though. Looking at those links to Pokemon fan fiction, it’s not hard at all to see one my third graders doing a little copy/paste job. And how would I know? - yikes! - Mark
Link | June 12th, 2007 at 5:55 am
Doug Noon wrote,
Mark, I don’t see how we could know if it was their own, except that I saw them writing it. Amazing how similar it all is, eh?
Link | June 12th, 2007 at 6:34 am
clay burell wrote,
Funny and fantastic at the same time. I could see you dealing with your exasperations about “Cindiquil.” I had similar feelings when a blogger in my class wrote some brilliant but esoteric posts on DeathNote, whatever that is. He pegged its allegorical connections to Copernicus and the Church, or else made them up. I was impressed, either way.
I’m having to explore solutions for tech in elementary since I’m going to be a k-12 edtech resource staff next year, so I’m all ears about the paucity of sites with appropriate readability levels for the primary grades.
I’m also going to forward this to a fifth grade teacher in my school who’s interested in these new ways.
Along those lines, have you dealt at all with RSS readers and feeds suitable for your class members? If so, I’d love to hear what you learned.
Link | July 9th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Doug Noon wrote,
No, I haven’t used RSS with the kids yet, though the Drupal engine (which is what runs the site) does have a module for that. So I need to check that out. It would be a lot easier to bring the content in from other sites than to send the kids out looking for it. Thanks for the nudge.
Link | July 10th, 2007 at 2:49 am