Comments on: The Larger Question http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/ (bôr'dər-lănd') n. Located on or near a frontier. An indeterminate area or condition. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:02:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: John Connell » Blog Archive » Great Doubt, Great Enlightenment http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-60819 John Connell » Blog Archive » Great Doubt, Great Enlightenment Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:35:28 +0000 http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-60819 [...] little new under the sun. In a recent post, he picked up on an example of this, in a post entitled The Larger Question, from Gerald Bracey in, of all places, the Huffington [...] [...] little new under the sun. In a recent post, he picked up on an example of this, in a post entitled The Larger Question, from Gerald Bracey in, of all places, the Huffington [...]

]]> By: Doug Noon http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59683 Doug Noon Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:40:05 +0000 http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59683 ...and THINK - a 21st century skill that is sorely needed. Yes. …and THINK - a 21st century skill that is sorely needed. Yes.

]]> By: Miss Profe http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59676 Miss Profe Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:49:59 +0000 http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59676 I guess I am always stumped by the phrase, "Our kids will hold jobs which don't yet exist." Is this really new? And, so what? regardless of the technology, folks will always need to know how to read, write, compute, create and THINK. I guess I am always stumped by the phrase, “Our kids will hold jobs which don’t yet exist.” Is this really new? And, so what? regardless of the technology, folks will always need to know how to read, write, compute, create and THINK.

]]> By: Doug Noon http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59635 Doug Noon Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:51:31 +0000 http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59635 Newman, you're right. It isn't a radical idea. Or maybe we could say that it's always been a radical idea that hasn't been fully explored. In any case, it's been kicked around for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism" rel="nofollow">over a hundred years</a>. Thanks for the Vonnegut link. Good to hear from you. Newman, you’re right. It isn’t a radical idea. Or maybe we could say that it’s always been a radical idea that hasn’t been fully explored. In any case, it’s been kicked around for over a hundred years. Thanks for the Vonnegut link. Good to hear from you.

]]> By: Newman http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59624 Newman Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:11:26 +0000 http://borderland.northernattitude.org/2007/11/30/the-larger-question/#comment-59624 So, can't we decide on those concepts that prolly won't change and teach those. I figure that problems will still need to be solved and groups of people will still form up somehow to solve those problems. or how about put the learner incharge of the decision and at least they will learn autonomous, 'life long learning' skills. I think the real stickiness comes from the fact, IMHO, that classrooms haven't changed at all in the past 50 years so why change now. They don't react to changing conditions and see these test scores show we are doing just fine!, they say. Also, when have they really put the learner in the center - and not of the discussion, but the center of the organization. Mostly, it's for the 'material benefit' of our society or our benevolent overlords who need 'skilled' workers who are dis-integrated, unquestioning, without insight nor curiosity. This isn't a radical idea - read 'Harrison Bergeron' http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html . We have been trained from the beginning to be accepting and un critical. That's got to stop or we are at the mercy of whatever tyrant happens to show up... grrrr /takes off 'poopy pants' and gets back to work PS: As always, Mr Noon, you are always on my read list. Sometimes, I get too busy to read, but it's always a delight when I return. Keep on truckin' So, can’t we decide on those concepts that prolly won’t change and teach those. I figure that problems will still need to be solved and groups of people will still form up somehow to solve those problems. or how about put the learner incharge of the decision and at least they will learn autonomous, ‘life long learning’ skills.

I think the real stickiness comes from the fact, IMHO, that classrooms haven’t changed at all in the past 50 years so why change now. They don’t react to changing conditions and see these test scores show we are doing just fine!, they say. Also, when have they really put the learner in the center - and not of the discussion, but the center of the organization. Mostly, it’s for the ‘material benefit’ of our society or our benevolent overlords who need ’skilled’ workers who are dis-integrated, unquestioning, without insight nor curiosity. This isn’t a radical idea - read ‘Harrison Bergeron’ http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html . We have been trained from the beginning to be accepting and un critical. That’s got to stop or we are at the mercy of whatever tyrant happens to show up…

grrrr

/takes off ‘poopy pants’ and gets back to work

PS: As always, Mr Noon, you are always on my read list. Sometimes, I get too busy to read, but it’s always a delight when I return. Keep on truckin’

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